In a special XOXO After Darkcast Quickie, Abby and special guest Molly (whom you’ll remember from our “Young Love” episode) debate one of the most controversial figures of our time: we’re talking, of course, about Taylor Swift.

Are you a Swiftie, ready to join her squad at a moment’s notice? Or do you think Taylor’s trying too hard? (Or maybe you just prefer Kanye.) Listen as Abby and Molly, moderated by producer Diana, discuss where XOXO should land on The Question of Tay Tay. Tell us in the comments whose side YOU’RE on!

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