This week’s XOXO podcast is almost criminal–the ladies talk about true crime books, and what they love (or hate) about them. Of course we talk about Serial, the podcast that started the latest obsession with true crime stories, and that leads us perfectly into our interview with Kathleen Barber, the author of ARE YOU SLEEPING!

Plus, we have a special inclusion this week–an audio excerpt of Kathleen’s book that’s sure to have you adding it to your TBR pile. Find out what podcasts she recommends, how she got the idea for her book, and what she needs to stay creative.

Finally, the ladies wrap up with a new game: “Stars of the 1-stars”! Can you guess which classic novels earned these 1-star reviews on Amazon? Happy guessing, happy listening, and remember…the best conversations happen after dark.